Angus Herd Talk
Discussions with Registered Angus Breeders across America about their operations, breeding philosophies and herd sires used in the past and present.
Angus Herd Talk
Bear Mountain Angus
In this episode I talk with Brian Stoller from Bear Mountain Angus about the origins of the ranch, his upcoming bull sale and bulls he's produced over the last 20 years.
Welcome to Angus River Talk. I'm your host David Gackley. On today's episode, I have Brian Stoller from Bear Mountain, Angus. Hey Brian, welcome to the show.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Thanks. Thanks for having me.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:I just want to take a moment and kind of let people know, you know, it's a little bit inside on these shows. It's not always the easiest thing to put one of these shows together because we're dealing with real ranches, guys shorthanded, they putting in long days. Brian just said he normally goes to bed at one in the morning. Right now he's, he's calving. He's having to get bulls ready for a bull sale that's coming up on, is it February 16th?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Sixth.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:6th. Okay, so we're even sooner than that. I think yesterday you were scanning bulls? Yeah.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:ultrasounded all the yearlings.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:And so we, we've been trying to scratch this thing together for an entire week trying to get an episode put together. And here we are. We finally got it done. And do you have a pot of coffee going?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:What was that?
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:You got a pot of coffee going?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:No,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Some Red Bull? Monster?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:water.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Water?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Water and beef jerky.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Alright, I'll try to keep this thing lively then. I want to say Brian I appreciate you making time for this. And hopefully we can do you some justice and get some eyes on your sale. What we're going to do is we're going to go back to 1986. The beginning of the Bear Mountain Program.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So I guess you kind of wanna know how this all started.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:That's right.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:what was that?
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Yeah, that's correct. Little Brian stole her in 1986.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Okay. So actually in 1985, when I was nine. first year I could be in 4 H. We went to a local rancher and bought two steers, a Hereford and a limousine. One was short and squatty, one was tall and long. and. There was a gal that was our 4 H leader who was an Angus breeder and, my dad was convinced that she didn't want to give us enough time because we didn't have an Angus steer. So that next year him and my mom Gary and Davey, they went to, I guess we were in California. It was in Angels Camp, California in the Sierra Nevada foothills, kind of east of Stockton about an hour. But went to, to Thomas Angus up in Baker, Oregon and bought. Mia Heffer and my brother, an Angus Heffer, and then three Angus Steers too at that same sale. so that was the beginning of Bear Mountain Angus. And I guess the reason it's called Bear Mountain Angus is the ranch we lived on was called Bear Mountain Ranch. So, we just switched it to Bear Mountain Angus. And then we've just stuck with that name all along.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Do you remember the cow families that you guys bought from Thomas?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I don't, no, I don't remember the cow families, I do have the bill of sale from buying those or when they bought them, but I do remember one of the cows, the one I showed was an AAR nutrient,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Okay.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I think is a bull that Thomas's own part of, and at that time were promoting pretty heavily, heavily. He was maybe one of the bulls that I think at the time, maybe he was starting to moderate things because They'd gotten them pretty big there in the late seventies and early eighties. And I think he was kind of one of the bulls that was changing the trend at the time.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:You got started with those couple that came from Thomas. And then as a young man, you started building your herd?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Yeah. So, you know, we showed their county fair, there was a couple jackpot shows locally, one in Plymouth that we went to that was pretty close. And just started meeting different people. And I guess one thing led to another. You got another heifer the next year at the California Angus Days. I believe it was, I believe that second year it was from 5J Angus, which was Ron Jones. And I can't remember his wife's name. But super nice people. And you know, they kind of helped us. Get going and I guess I just say as a 4 H project gone wild I just kind of, my dad and myself really fell in love with the people, I guess, the breed, the people in the breed and just everything about it. Got more involved in the California Junior Angus. Association, which led to getting involved there, you know, going to the National Junior Angus show and getting to meet a lot of people throughout the country that way. And I think I can't remember exactly, maybe somewhere in my teen years my parents went and bought oh, maybe 20 cows or so from Jim O'Neill in Iowa,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Oh, okay.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I think we bought another 10 or 15 from Krebs in one of their kind of mature cow herd dispersals that they have every now and then. So, those would be a lot of the cows we started with, which we still have some cows that go back to those two herds.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:So you guys jumped in. And so that was in California. how big did you guys build out that California herd?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:We got to about 100 head in a pretty rapid fashion, I guess which, you know, we learned a lot of things. I guess, there's some, some things, you know, that worked out great, but Oh, we just got too big for what we had room for. And it was costing more than it was making. So when I was in college, they actually, my parents dispersed that herd. And I guess we had dispersal there. I was thinking, maybe there's a catalog here, I can't remember what year, but, but so most of those cows got sold when I was in college. I think that was in like 90, been in 90, 95 actually, because I graduated high school in 94. And I think that was in 95, because yeah but for one reason or another, they're three or four of the better cows we got back from that dispersal later on.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Oh, okay.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:And then like the Jamie cow family she would have came back to us because her mother was a cow we bought and her tattoo didn't match the registration paper. And the people that we bought her from, well, people that raised her used a rotary tattoo, and they said it slipped, which I use a rotary tattoo. And I know it does slip from time to time. And I guess they didn't necessarily believe us. So we said, Hey, we'll just take her back. And that calf on the side of that cow was that Bear Mountain Jamie 512, who later went on to win Denver for me in the junior show.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Into that thing, huh?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yeah, that worked out good. There is a lady airline cow. We got back from Jim O'Neill, who was our high selling one in that dispersal. There's still cows that go back to her. There was a Blackbird cow that originated from Sunny Valley that I think we still have a few that go back to her. But yep.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:And then the family moved off to Idaho.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Yeah. So when I got done with college so I guess to back up, my parents had a horseback riding and stagecoach ride in a state park, Columbia State Park there in California. And that's what they did for a living as I was growing up or my brother and I grew up. And they had lost a contract to do that in that state park. So and my mom, she swore she'd never leave California. She loved it, was born and raised there. And my dad kind of always wanted to move somewhere else where it was a little easier to ranch cause he really loved that. But so in 2001, when we were in Denver showing. And we knew the foot E. G. and Patsy foot. my parents were ready to find something somewhere and they talked to them and then they had five boys, but none of them wanted to take over their ranch. So they said, Hey, why don't you come by and look at our place? We're ready to sell. And they had been in the business for 50 plus years, I think at that time. So it was a pretty established place. So we ended up buying Foot Acres Angus in 2001 and moved up there, I think in May or something. But yeah, so we moved up there and, and went from having, at that time I had about 10 or 12 cows and they were all better cows, ones we were fleshing. And kind of selling some embryos and doing some flush work with some different people on those. But about that place had 400 mother cows. And nice thing about that place is it came with a staff. There was like eight people that worked for them that knew how that place ran. So we kind of did. What they were doing for about the first year and kind of saw what we thought would work and maybe Few things changed and made a few changes and we ended up running that place with us And I think three guys, but had it up to about 500 mother cows selling about 200 bulls a year They're still doing some showing and whatnot. But the main goal Was to raise bulls to sell a commercial guy.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Did you purchase the herd from Foote?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Yeah, we bought their entire place, their cows, equipment, everything.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Turnkey Operation.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Yep.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Then a few years later you guys then went to Nebraska,
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Yep. So,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:you are currently.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yep. So I guess the reason for that move was and when we moved to Idaho it was not very far from Boise, about 45 minutes southwest of there just south of Nampa, Idaho, about 15 minutes. And we could tell that, you know, at some point That place would might could be some development ground. And maybe 20 years down the road, but about 5 years after we moved there, there was 3 different developers wanting to buy that place. And they just wanted to land no equipment, no cattle. So, and for what they're offering us, it would have been stupid not to sell. So we sold it to the guy that told us that. We have about 10 years before they do anything with it and we could stay there. Well, then the market crashed in about a year and a half after we sold it. They said, you need to be out of here in six months. So we had to find
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Yeah. Yeah.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:we had to find something in a hurry. So we were in Denver again and Randy Lathrop introduced my dad to a realtor. And from, Not very far from here where we're at. And after we got done showing in Denver, I sent the cattle home and I stayed with tack trailer and went and looked at two different ranches with that guy and ended up here in Palisade.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:give us an idea of what it's like to ranch in California versus Idaho versus Nebraska, I mean in completely different regions, climates, even political it's different. give us an idea of what it's like to ranch in those three different places.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So I guess. When we were in California, I'd call it more of a hobby ranch that, you know, it wasn't our main source of income. So, and where we were, the reason I guess it didn't work is, well, I don't think it worked for us. The way we did it is we had to buy a lot of feed, I think mainly because we had too many cows for, What land we had and you know, it just was, wasn't cost effective there.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:And I'm assuming in California you run on dry land, not irrigated.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yeah, most of it was either, it was, yeah, it was all dry land, but you'd get where we're at if I remember right, we'd get 30 to 40 inches of rain a year,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Oh,
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:but it, you know, it was, and I guess, so as in we're in the same county I think you've had Joe Fisher on here quite a bit.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Yeah, a couple times, yeah.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Him and I were from the same county there, and he's a little younger than me, but. So you know, Joe knows more about that area than I do. Cause I left when I was, you know, my early twenties and he's lived there his whole life. But you know, as far as running registered cows where we were at I think it's better to run commercial cows there just cause it's, you know, bigger country, you don't see the cattle as often and whatnot.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:And then in Idaho, you go there, and you just turn on your rain, right? You just go out there, put the switch on, turn on the rain?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yeah, yeah, you do. You have to turn the rain on, because it's high desert. So that place was all irrigated. We had I don't know, it was about 1, 100 acres. We could run about, we had about 500 cows. When we sold stuff there but yeah, you'd irrigate and you'd, you know, could run a couple cows to an acre and rotate stuff around and we had a fair amount of farming on that place and it was fairly labor intensive or, you know, the other way to run cows in that area in Idaho, where is on, you know, the high desert out in big country, you know, you'd have to run a couple 50 acres. And you know, there again for a registered outfit for me, the way I like to do it. You know, it's kind of hard to see everything very often and kind of get, get what you want out of them. But anyways, when we moved here to Nebraska I guess To me, this is the favorite, my favorite place I've lived. I didn't necessarily realize exactly what I was moving into when I moved here. We just kind of did it in a hurry because we needed to go somewhere and it looked like a good place. But, you know, it's about 10 acres to a cow. We get more rain here than we got in Idaho. And you know, we run a lot of cows in corn stalks and, you know, feed residue and whatever in the winter. Grass, you know, through the summer. We feed them a little bit after they calve. know, just so we can get them bred back. But as soon as we can get them back out on grass, we do. So, it's a lot nicer. You can let cows be cows. But you can still get around and see everything all the time. Make sure everything's healthy and whatnot.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Now on the herd currently, you're not running as many cattle as you did in Idaho,
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:no, not right now. We we were up to about 400 mother cows two years ago And Due to lack of help and time I just decided that we should cut back a little bit so we had a major herd reduction two falls ago in 23 and Oh, with everything we sold about 400 head. But so last year we caved about 200 cows out, and this year I think we're gonna have about 250. We'll calve out.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:So as you've jumped from three different locations, how has your breeding philosophy changed? Or has it?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I guess, you know, originally this started as a, you know, I don't want, well, a four H project with, you know, more show oriented, but back in those days, I believe, you know, there was good functional cattle that you could show in the show ring and get along good. My. I guess my philosophy was always to have good looking cattle that still go out and make good mama cows and raise calves and, you know, kind of do everything a cow should do. I fine tuned that as, you know, I've learned the cow herd and the cows and learned more. But yeah, I've always I guess appreciated a good cow with a good udder, you know, good feet disposition. I like good disposition, but I don't want them. dumb. Sometimes people take docility a little bit too extreme and you lose some of the cow's mothering ability. But you know, there's a happy medium with everything. So,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:I like it a little high minded. I got a couple cows that are a little high minded, especially when there's a brand new calf on the ground. I actually have a little appreciation for that. And like I said, I don't want them dog gentle to where they're dumb. I grew up in the dairy industry where that's more common than not. define a bare mountain cow. What, is she a frame six? Six and a half? Five?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I don't, I, I guess probably a five to five and a half, ideally. There's probably a few that are a little smaller and a few that are a little bigger. I guess the, the main thing is, is that. They can calve every year, breed back you know, have good udders, good feet. If they don't have good feet and udders, they usually become a re sip. we have lots of embryos I put in. And you know, they might be functional, but I don't know that I need to send that into the commercial guy's herd. So I can deal with it, but I don't know that they need to. You know, the biggest thing is that they can raise a good calf. Do a good job, mother them good. You know, do what a cow is supposed to do.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Yeah, and if anybody wants to see what, what a Bear Mountain cow looks like, you have a great website where people go on there. they can see your donors from the past and the present. and actually there's even one in there for the future. So I'm gonna actually let you have a moment with this. I normally haven't had done this with somebody else but you have a pretty big battery for donors. Talk about Bear Mountain genie. She comes out of the 7860 cow.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:7860, so she would be the mother of justice.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:yep.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:And she would go back to a special design daughter. Who is a pathfinder who I sold half of to a guy named Bill Bain. and that was one we sold as a show heifer. I showed her, she had a successful show career. won her division quite a bit I think in Denver as a senior yearling. But you know. She raised a bull that Alta had bought an Owyhee Sun, and she was a cow that 42 38, that special design that she goes back to, was oh, I think she was around here until she was 12 or 13, maybe 14, so, there's a lot of cows that, if I don't sell them, when they're 6 or 7, for one reason or another, they just kind of never, Never find their way out of here. Keep calving a calf every year. And you know, when they get over 10 or 12, I'll, you know, keep them in in the winter and maybe feed them a little extra just because it's not as easy for them out on corn stalks. But you know, they've done their job to get to that point.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:We like old cows. They've done their job.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yeah, we just calved one out. Was born in 09. So what's that? She's 16. Just had her 15th calf.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Oh,
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:she's a good one. another one. Fairmountain Judy, 6535. The damned pilot.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So, yeah, so that's, yeah, the mother of Pilot, who sold the Sids and Ellingsons a couple years ago. But she'd also be the full sister to Justify, who's a justified son out of a Pioneer cow. And I don't know, she's just a really good udder, moderate, easy fleshing cow that we sold her kind of as a feature in our sale a few years ago and ZWT bought her and her daughter for 49, 000.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Woo!
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:We've got quite a few daughters out of her back in the herd and they're doing a good job. So that's, I guess when I get enough. in the herd, I can go ahead and sell those, you know, good cows like that. I used to, I used to hang on to those and then seemed like nobody'd ever know about them. So it seems like if I sell them like that, then people get to know about them and it helps promote the program.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Makes sense. next one is Bear Mountain Forever Lady 0579,
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So that'd be,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:North Stars Dam.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:yeah, that'd be North Stars Dam. She's, I guess a five year old now. And. You know, she bred up as a two year old and bred in North Star as her first calf. Bred back, had another one, did that three years in a row. Actually, I flushed her after we sold North Star a couple times and then threw her out with the bull. That I'd bought a really good bull from Keneally's. bred right up after we flushed her there. And then been flushing her all this year. I guess our lead off bull in our bull sale this year is out of her by stealth which is a stellar son we have, but just a really long bodied nice fronted, level made, really sound cow that's good uttered. And I guess her mother. is really, really good. Love her. We sold her. She was our high selling cow in that major herd reduction to stealth flu. The her grandmother was probably the best cash daughter that I've ever been around. some guys Steven Lostavica and his family bought her down in Texas and, and she's a donor cow down there. And the fourth cow back in that pedigree is triple O1 and she, we bought as a heifer calf pregnancy from 4M over in Blue Hill, the Meyers. And she was probably, I don't know, the best Bismarck that I'd been around. Good footed one that just always had really good calves. And that's kind of how she ended up in the donor pin, that 0001. She ended up selling to Marshall Fenner in Missouri. And they used her and had calves out of her. I think she lived past 12 or 13, he said. But but just a lot of really, really good cows in that cow family. And I, I really liked the forever ladies. I've always had good luck with those cows.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:That 0579 cow, gorgeous front end, just super, super clean, beautiful head on her, she's a gorgeous cow. How does one make it into the donor pen?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:You got to raise a good calf. You gotta do, I guess, I need to like your mom. That helps.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:sounds like you're dating her.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:That never get flushed. But. Yeah, I mean basically you gotta do your job, you know, raise a few good calves not mess up. And usually, I'm not saying always, but usually I wait until they're a little older or I know, you know, that they're gonna do what I want them to do. Yeah.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:this last one, the very last one, she's brand new to, I don't know, brand new to the program, but you just bought her back in, I believe, November, you offered up some embryos for her, from her, in the Denver sale the, this is BC, c, Varda intense 58 J. She is the dam to b, c, c rapport who is in the St. Genetics lineup. A lot of people are pretty excited about this rapport bowl. I got a good friend. I can't really disclose too much about him because, but he's been on that podcast a couple times. he was one of the first users of rapport and all reports are really, really good on that bull. But tell us about this cow you bought.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:Well, first of all, I've never seen her in person,
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:No?
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:But I, I do know Brian Bergery well, and he's a guy kind of like myself, you know, if he says something, it's going to be the truth. And I guess in that picture of her, you see her udder and just absolutely love her udder. the stellar cattle have been really, really good here for me and they've crossed well on my justifies. So I guess I saw him offering her there at the Niles sale and, and thought she'd be a good addition to our donor battery. You know, there again, she's a cow that obviously raised a good bull. And I really liked that Ever Elder Intense Cow family. She goes back to 1905. And, you know, just a lot of good stuff there that I think, you know, do the industry good.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:Does she go back to the Three Trees cow? you put out a number out there
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:So, 1905 is BTRL the intense 19.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:okay.
brian_1_01-23-2025_171018:I think would be what she'd go back to.
david_1_01-23-2025_191018:got it. well we're going to take a break right there and we're going to come back and talk about the sale coming up on February 6th.
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david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Alright, we're back with Brian Stuller from Bear Mountain Angus. We're going to cover a little bit of his bull offerings for the sale for February 6th. Alright Brian, what you got?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:All right, we'll start at the front of the catalog. The lot one bull I guess lot one and two have kind of been, well, one, two and three really have been three of our favorite bulls all summer and all long. One's kind of surfaced to the top after genomics came back and you know, as EPDs. Kind of got the way they are. He's calving these with a little more growth than a sire. You know, with good feet good carcass, kind of a very well rounded bull. Super long bodied, a little smoother fronted than a sire, longer fronted than a stealth. Which is coming from that good justify cow which he's out of 0579, who's Northstar's mother. And you know, she gave him a little added frame and length, but still has the muscle mass bone that his sire stealth has and that justify or stellar on justify cross works really, really good here. Which that's what all three of those bulls are.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Now 1 and 2, they're flesh brothers, but it looks like number 3 is out of a different cow.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yep, yep. Yep, three is out of
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Barbara.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:heifer. Who goes back to another one of them old cows who's 14. Pathfinder still in production. I guess Genomics didn't like him as well, but he's huge meddled, huge top, nice fronted super complete, just a tank of a bull, that lot three.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Does that Barbara cow, does that go back to Thomas?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:now, it actually goes back to, we had a bull we called a Wahee, that was our first bull we sold for, well, I guess our second bull we sold for a lot of money back in
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Yeah, we're going to talk about him.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Okay.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:but it's okay. Keep
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:8106 cow who's This bull's third dam would be a full sister to a why he
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Oh, okay.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:so so he'd go back to a why he's mother Yeah, which you know is always a really that was a cow family that came from that foot acres with that place there so Always done a good job those cows And I guess getting into the North Stars. They're like lot 11 through 30 And this is his first calf crop and they're all really good. That bull, he stamps them, puts a really nice look in them. Big top square hip pretty nice hind leg lots of rib shape. And I don't know if I have one favorite bull, but there's a lot of really good North stars in there. Like
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Now he's a, he's a true north son out of the, out of that donor, that 0 5 7 9 forever lady. True North son. he's one of the few bulls I did not put on my list. Oh, actually I did put him on my list. He's owned with, he's at Jan X
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yep. Gen X and Lance bought him a couple of years ago. So this would be his first calf crop. And like I said, there's just, I don't know, there's 23 of them in the sale and there's probably 10 or 12 of them that, you know, you just walk in that pen and they just stick out like a sore thumb.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:that picture of hi of him in your catalog. North Star. That's a good lookin bull.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Thanks.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:do you think True North stamps him a little bit? With a little base width?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yeah. I think North star is a little different than most of the true Norse, which I think is coming from that cow. You know, he's probably a little bigger framed than, you know, a lot of people might think the way he's bred, but that cow's a bigger, longer bodied cow and North stars the same way and probably a little nicer up to their front end than a typical true North, but maybe not as soggy and soft middle as a, a true North. So I think North star probably makes them a little different than Most of the true north's, I guess going back, you know, I guess like a lot of 11, 13, 14, 15, 17 19, 21 26,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:got, you got a slug of
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah, 31. Those are kind of some of my I like. But and then we get into the justices, which justice is justify son that that Alta bought. And there's a flush of those out of stealth's mother like lot 34. is another one of my favorites. He's a, you know, like I said, a justice out of north, out of stealth's mother, that Ruger daughter.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:He's deep.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah, he's deep, Long pretty good gut, quite a bit of bone for a true Calvinese bull. And then there's a full sister to him who was part of the Penn Heifers we took to Oklahoma city. And actually sold choice her and her sister down there. And she sold half interest for 10, 000. So, not only the bulls are good, the heifers are good on that flush too. There's several of these Justice fall bulls that are pretty good. Big stout, rugged bulls.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Hey, what, what, what are these ones that say Bear Mountain and then K. A. Justice.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:K. A. is a cooperator. It's Keyswater, Angus. He, he's in it's Dan and Steve Keeswater there in Illinois there and kind of started selling bulls with us probably eight, 10 years ago. And you know, a lot of these go back to our cows that they've been buying. And then,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:You actually give them some recognition in there.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:That's nice. I like that. There's a lot of outfits that don't do that.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah, no, I tell them if they want to put their name on there when they register them, they're more than welcome to. There's another cooperator. Here we've got Which is Derek Vap, Vap Angus. And he doesn't put his name on there, but it'd be some of the lower tattoo numbers, like mine. I'll start with either 3, 500 on up for the fall bull. Well, there's 3, 800 on up or 4, 500 on up for the springs. But anything like a four thousand eleven, forty eleven, would be one of VAPs.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Okay. Like this Magnify 301, that's Lop 56.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Actually, that one belongs to a neighbor. There's a family down the road here that helps us quite a bit. The Weeses. And we actually have given all three of their kids a heifer for helping us.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Okay.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:now they've got a little herd. So this is a bull that's out of one of those cows.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Lop 56, I like the dam's name, Spicy Lady.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yeah, but that was one of Reagan's cows. And
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:And it goes, goes back to Sassy Lady.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah, so which Reagan is are my stepdaughter.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:I like those names. That's, that's a different cow family name.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah. Well, it was just started out as lady, which that goes back to one of them foot acres cows. that came with that herd. So and I guess the story on that, a guy had bought a heifer from us, bred her, she calved it too. And then he was complaining cause she didn't breed back. So I told him, well, I'll just buy her back from you. Cause she was pretty good and she was pretty malnourished. Well, that was when Tiff and I first were dating, my wife, and Tiff said, Well, I'll just buy her because she's pretty good and I'll give her, we'll give her to Reagan. So, that's how that started and came about.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Now I kind of jumped, jumped the gun on you. I moved clear down to the 69, 70s. These prolifics. Prolifics, kind of ga gaining some ground across the country. A lot of people starting to notice them, and maybe some are using them. What do you think of the prolifics?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:I really, really like them. We just had the first one calved the other day, which was the lot one we sold in our female sale. Real nice udder, real good cow but yeah, there's a lot of these prolifics that I like. Quite a
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:These bull, they're kind of soggy, deep, deep and soggy.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:soggy, good looking. And he works good on our cow herd. Cause our cows are like, you're talking about 0579, you know, how angular and extended and feminine she is up through her front end. That's kind of how most of our cows are. So. A bull like prolific, you know, he's maybe not the nicest fronted. But it's a good cross. So it actually works out pretty good. And there's one bull I want to point out lot 58, who's in the pilot section. I thought he was a pilot. But genomics came back kind of late and he's actually a prolific out of 6535, who's pilot's mother. So he's pretty good too. A few of the other prolifics that I really like are lot 66. I have a really good mark two daughter. Which goes actually back to the same cow family as Northstar. 67 is really good. Another really long bodied, smooth made. Got a really nice EPD profile to go with all that. 71 is another one that I really like.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:I'm gonna jump you down to, to the eighties, 83 through 86. We're gonna talk about a siren use here. That's kind of popular, but I don't know, people got a little different feeling about this one craftsmen. Tell us about how craftsmen worked for ya.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:so I just flushed him to that one cow. I have a partner on that cow and he wanted to try and sell some embryos. So I was trying to find something that was kind of popular, but still might make, you know, cattle that could work for the commercial guy. And so that's how we ended up with those bulls.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Did they perform pretty good? laughing
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:couple of them are pretty nice. They're all right. The 80s, 80, 83, 83 is probably the best one. The one I got pictured there, but yeah. But the 87 and 88 who are out of the same cow by dynamic, they're both really good bulls.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:you got some dynamic in there as well
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yeah,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:and then, They got a couple of Man in Blacks coming.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yeah,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:It looks like some of these later ones, they're samples. You're kind of like sampling some stuff. It doesn't look like you went all in on a bunch of stuff. A little bit of this here and there for some people. Your buyers, are they primarily local commercial guys?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Mostly, yeah. I've got a few guys from a ways away. There's a guy from Utah that's been buying bulls from us for 20 years. And only our bulls and, you know, he'll buy seems like eight or 10 a year. And he's actually got 30 open commercial heifers. In the sale this year and they just got here yesterday and they're tremendous. They're really, really good set of heifers. But yeah, the majority of the bulls probably go within 150 miles of us.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:In that area, are they more focused on low birth weight type bulls?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:They like them. Moderate birth and big weaning. I guess those are the two things they kind
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Well, don't we all? Don't we all?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yep. Yep But if there's a good big stout bull some of them some of them are All right with a little birth weight
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Especially this time of year. They're calving this time of year eighty five pounders is just fine. Especially in that nine degree weather out there, yeah. That eighty six pound bull calf is just
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:pounders not too bad either
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:That's true. Very true. Before we move on, is there any other side I didn't mind to push you too far.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:any other sires
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Yeah. Any other bulls you wanted to to note in
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:oh, I mean, there's some like flushes like these three renovations out of that really good resource cow. They're all pretty nice
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Shaw renovation.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yep.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Okay,
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:Yep. That's a cow we bought with a partner from from ZWT. Those, they're a little younger, so they're maybe not as big as some of the older bulls, but they're still made really good. There's a one reality bull, what, 109, who's really good. And I'd have more of these, but I had like eight heifers in this one bull and the heifers are really, really good. and this bull is good too, but in that major herd reduction, it seemed like all the cows that were carrying bull calves got sold in that, so that's why we only have one of them. And then there's, you know, two bulls at the very back, lot 110 and 111, who are both really good. Out of bulls I had bought is cleanup bulls the 110s out of. A 14 year old cow who just calved two nights ago, who is the mother of Stronghold. And the 111 calf bulls, just really good meat and potatoes kind of bull, out of a resilient son I bought from Huykens. And then this is that cow's second calf, her first calf sold last year for 10, 000 to Keyswaters as a herdsire for them. 14,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:so to go back to the lot, one 10, you said that that cow's four, did you say 14, 15 years old?
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:she was born in 11,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:14. Her, her sire is Hawaii.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yep,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:I mean that that is that, that's pretty vintage.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:yep.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:darn vintage. her grand si is bla on. That is that's an old pedigree. And the fact that she's still trucking along is, that's a good one.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:And that 811 Cal, the third dam, she's by Traveler 71. And then goes back to that Boyd Forever Lady 57D who made so many good herd sires for,
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:Yeah.
brian_2_01-23-2025_174627:for Boyds.
david_2_01-23-2025_194627:let's take a break right there. We're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about bulls. I.
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david_3_01-23-2025_200609:We're back with Brian Stoller from Bear Mountain Angus. Alright, Brian, this is my favorite part of the show. We're going to talk about some bulls. Normally I'll talk to somebody about bulls that they're using in their program. A lot of times a lot of the popular AI bulls. In your case with this deep history of having these bulls that go clear back to Bear Mountain freight train, I'm worse going to talk about your stuff. So, let's start right there. Bear Mountain Freight Train, who was a Freightliner's son.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Okay, so freight train was a bull that I think he was born that first year we bought foot acres. They had bred him. We calved him out. He was really impressive. Freightliner was a 598 and his DM was also a 598 by a lion eye. So he's double bred.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:I'm just putting it out there that it's Bando 598.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Yep. Sorry. Bando 598. Really good maternal bull from back in the day, But but he was I guess a little bigger stouter longer than most of your freight liners. We showed him he did quite well and promoted him and ended up selling him half interest for 51, 500. That was the first bull we sold for quite a bit of money. And actually a guy kind of like yourself bought him. He was owned a dairy. Him and his parents owned a dairy in Malala, Oregon is Todd Brinkman his parents kind of wanted to get started in the Angus business. And so they bought him and bought a few bred heifers from us that day. And then. We ended up buying some donor cows together and, and doing some partnership stuff with them. But but Freight Train, you know, he made some really, really good daughters, good bulls. You know, at first when they calved, I was a little afraid that. They weren't going to have enough milk, but they had some smaller udders, but milked heavy. So which I don't even know what his EPDs are today, but I would imagine he's got a pretty high milk EPD cause they ratioed out of this world, those
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:did you use Freightliner quite a bit?
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Yeah. Well, EG Airfoot had used Freightliner that was kind of a bull that they were using to maybe correct some things cause they had got some of their cows a little on the big side. And they were using him, him, and some other bulls to kind of moderate things. And that bull worked really, really good on that herd. Cause, you know, they were a little bigger, like I said. So it kind of you know, got them to about the right size.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Freightliner was the very first bull I ever used, AI wise. I got some really, really good cows out of that. I also got some cows with some really bad udders out of that deal, too. He could wreck her udder in a hurry. But at the same time, I had some really, really good productive daughters out of him.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:yeah. The daughters were really good. Some of them, I didn't ever have them get big titted. But they'd get a little longer titted, some of them.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:hmm. Yeah.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Yeah, they were good calf raisers,
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:they were good cows. his milk's at 31. Now, my favorite name of a bull ever is this one, Bear Mountain Owyhee. How did he get that name?
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:You even said it right. Most people can't pronounce it. The county we lived in in Idaho was a Waihee County.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Oh, okay.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:So, we went with that.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:And he was a one, he was a one eyed two sun.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:huh?
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:He's a one eyed two sun. Orido, one eyed two sun.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Which that would have been 1i2's, I think, first calf crop. And we didn't have very many of them that year, but they were all pretty good and why he being out of that cow. She, that ultra box cow she added some muscle and some scrotal, which one eye two lacked. So, there again, it worked really good. That was another bull we showed. And he won his division everywhere we went, except for one place. Some people thought maybe he should have been reserve in Denver that year. But, there was a lot of studs interested in him and a couple people from California ended up buying him. But but like we were talking earlier, you know, the daughters out of that bull have lasted. We've got that one that's 14, that other cow that calved at 16, she's also an Owyhee. There was another guy telling me that he bought a cow from me when she was seven and she lived till she was 17 and she was in Hawaii So good productive cows and the commercial bull. You know, the commercial cattlemen loved those bulls. When we sold them, they, you know, they were our high selling bulls every year.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:I'm really surprised by his lack of use. I thought he'd have more progeny than he had.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Yeah, they're so we, we had a chance to lease him to accelerated, but the people that bought him didn't think we were going to get enough out of him. So. He never really got promoted like he should have. But the cattle were really good. So yeah, I think that's part why he didn't get used harder.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Now we're going to jump into something a little more modern. Bear Mountain Mark II, who is available. Is he still at Alta?
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:They are, I know they sent him away. I don't think they maybe have, they might have some semen left on him.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Okay.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:But I know they shipped him a couple years ago. But that was a. True Cavanese bull. Really deep, soggy it's progeny that way. And these daughters, they've got the most beautiful udders in the world. And they're some of our best looking cows. There's actually a couple of them on my radar to flush this year. I don't know if I'm going to do it or not, but you can only flush so many. But there's know. They're beautiful cows. The bulls were easy to sell as Cavanese bulls and the cow that he's out of, she was probably the best justified cow that we had. I sold her probably before anybody really appreciated justified. So she, you know, didn't maybe get as much exposure as maybe she should have. But Shane work over here in Kansas bought half interest in her and we're partners still on her. She's, oh, I guess nine now, still going strong. So good. Kelsey.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:take it from there. Talk about KG Justified, because you had a really good success with that bull.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:So justified I used him early probably had the first calves out of that bull. I saw him so my brother in law lives in Montana and we were there for Thanksgiving that year. And Went to Sid's and KG's and looked at bulls while we were up there and just fell in love with Justified. And I was actually runner up bidder on him when he sold and I talked Ron Frye into giving me some semen for Running him so hard. And so he sent me 50 units of semen and I put it all in. And, and that's why I got started using that bull so early. But they're like you say, darn, darn good. And you know, the bulls were easy to sell cause there are cavanese bulls, but they weren't big, tall, narrow cavanese bulls. They had some width, some base width, something to them. They're moderate. Good looking. But you know, the best part about that bull, like we all know today is the daughters out of him just make tremendous cows.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:And then he produced a great son for you in Bear Mountain Justify ST Genetics currently carries him. Talk about that bull.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:So justify, he wasn't our high selling bull that year. Keys, Kevin keys at keys Angus bought him cause I told him he was going to be really good. And he was there again, probably a little before people knew what justified was but a bull I really, really liked and I liked his mother. And that 65 35 cow we were talking about earlier. Who's his full sister was actually born a year before him. That was that cow's natural calf in 16. And and I'd always liked that heifer. So, I just, Hey, I had a bunch of cows to him and we sold stronghold that same year, but she was our high selling bull and Alta bought him, but you know, both those bulls did good for us, but the justify, you know, I. Kind of pushed him to a few different bull studs. And, you know, the ones we had were really good that first year and, and they continued to be good. And that cow he's out of is really good. Actually, I just bought his mother back last fall. Another good old cow story, but she's 12, 12. Yeah. And has cab first service AI every year for life. But
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:So Brian, when you sell a cow, you never say goodbye, you just say see ya later.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:well, that one I did. Yeah. Yeah.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:I think that's been podcast, is Brian sells a cow, buys her back.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:It's possible. There's a possibility.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Then he produced a son just by then produced a son named Bear Mountain Justice, who is available through Alta.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Yeah. Yeah.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:him.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:So justice would be my wife's favorite bull. We ever produced super soggy, big top. Almost too loose made when he was a calf and he's kind of one of them bulls. He's really big numbered right now, but when he was, when we sold him, his EPDs weren't that good. He kinda, it's like it had to catch up to all the stuff he did. He outproduced. genomics and EPD said he would do. Like when we sold him, I think he was a 2. 90 C or something. Well, by May that year, he was like 3 20. And now that we've turn, you know, I don't know how much, how many progenies had, but I'd call him pretty much proven by now. But, you know, he's even gotten better. So still cavities. With a ton of growth, good carcass
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:good carcass, really good
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:just kind of does everything right.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:seat
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:the docility on the justices, they're not mean, but you know, You might protect him on docility a little bit.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:they're, they're gonna keep you awake,
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Oh, they're not, they're just you know, they're not as, they're not mean, but maybe a little skittish, but the more you mess with them, the better they act, they, they need to learn to trust you. I guess
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:His carcass is really good. And then his dollar C is 3 46 at this point in time. Yeah, he's not, he's definitely not a, not a drudge in the numbers. He's got really good numbers.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:that he's actually, he actually died last year.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:Oh, he did, oh, sorry about
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:But they still have some semen left on him, they say. He was a really, really good semen producer.
david_3_01-23-2025_200609:the next one is also selling to justify bear Mountain Bulletproof.
brian_3_01-23-2025_180610:Bulletproof is a bull that GenX bought the same day they bought that was, Cody just loved him which he was extremely good looking. Out of a really nice, it was her first calf. That cow which goes back to a cow I'd bought from Conley, which originally came from the Woodhill program. I think she's a Gammer, which is what 878, I believe, goes back to. But you know, another really good cow. That bull there, though, he's putting a really, really good look in them. There's two sons in the sale that are both really good. We've got more coming this year. Damrons. Oh, they bought him with Gen X. And a half her calf that was at the side of their cow calf champion was by him this year. So a justify son with a really, really good look.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:this next bull is Bear Mountain Pilot. He's owned with Ellinson and Sitz, so you got some pretty big partners there. He's a patriarch son Super Cavanese. I think I pulled him up off of Origin and Bull Barn.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah pilot was our high sound bow in 2022. And like you said, yeah, Ellingson's and Sitt's bought him. He's out of that really, really good full sister to justify 65. 35. He got hurt that first year at studs. So we didn't have a lot of semen. We have a lot more calves this year by him and the bulls, they're nice Cavanese bulls, but the females, they look like they're going to make really, really good cows. Really deep sided sound look like they're going to be easy flesh and still feminine and attractive up to their front, front end. But really nice, nice made females.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Has Ellinson and Sitz, have they offered any of his sons or daughters of their souls?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah. Ellingson's had some, well, they both had some sons last year in their sales. And I've heard a few people tell me that some of the best heifers at And Ellingson say their best heifer last year out of their entire calf crop was by pilot. I mean, we'll see when they get into production I guess it all looks promising as a female maker.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Here's one more for ya. Bear Mountain Patriot. He's a patriarch son as well he's at Alta.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yep. That's a bull that they just bought for his extreme cavities. We used him a little bit that first year natural service. He did a good job breeding. We got some. Really nice calves by him. And that bull is just really good looking. I haven't used him since, just cause I got enough Patriarch in the herd with Tween Pilot and the Patriarchs that we already used. But I guess everybody that sees him up there at Hawkeye says that bull looks really, really good.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:deep, deep, Big ol neck crest he's got a big ol rump on his butt. Yeah he's looks like a really solid bull. So apparently he did pretty well with Patriarch.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah, patriarch worked good here. There's two might be the two best looking patriarchs. We've had her in the sale this year. One's out of a justified and the other ones out of a justify both two year olds, but but yeah, patriarchs done a good job here.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:we've covered this one, but I want you to get a little more in depth with him. This is Bear Mountain North Star, available at Gen X. He's just, he's kind of more my type of bull. He's got more of an athletic type build to him. Talk about this bull.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:So he's out of that zero five, seven, nine. He talked about earlier. He was her first calf.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:She's got a mess of sons in the sale.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah. Yep. But you know, he just, like I said earlier, he's kind of different for a true north. Got a little more frame, a little more length. Cool look really nice and extended up through his front end. Super long bodied big top square hip had really, really good feet when he was here. I haven't seen him for a while, but he, you know, his feet have always been good. The sons, his feet are good. I guess if I protect him anywhere using him, you might want to make him a little softer, soggier middle, but you know, that's not for everybody. So but they have a tremendous look to them.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:And his carcass is pretty respectable.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah. Really?
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:is good. Hair shed is really good.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah, yeah, and we'll know for sure if the carcass is good when we get that data
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Oh yeah, getting scanned at it. People have probably got the catalogs coming their way already, probably in the mail. I'm assuming and then that's gonna be a handout available at the sale
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah, we'll have a update sheet, or I guess, I don't know if it's really update, but yeah. Sheet with all the carcass and yearling all that stuff that we hadn't, you know, that they weren't old enough to do before we had to get the catalog out.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:And what sales side are you using for
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:We, it'll be on liveauctions. tv.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:and they'll put up at the supplemental as well
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:What was that?
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:They'll put up the supplement as well the carcass,
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah, they'll put that up there.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Get the lot order up there and everything and then that's on February 6th. How can somebody get the catalog online?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:You can go through our website or go to the Angus website and find it.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:And then how do they contact you to get any information?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:My phone number is 308 737 6213. You can call me or text me.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Do you do an email?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:We're emails bear, B E A R M T N for Mountain Angus at MSN. com.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:Is it MSN or Gmail?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:MSN.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:You know, that's why you didn't give me an email today.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Oh, okay.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:I sent this bare mountain at Gmail. So someone's got it,
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:that'd be the problem.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:That was part of the problem, yeah. That's why you didn't get that link today. Before we shut this down how many years have you had a bull sale, production sale?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:The first one was in when we bought Foot Acres in 2002, I think.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:So this would be your twenty fourth? It would be your twenty fourth. You also have a, I believe you have a, female sale every year as well.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yep. It's the last Saturday in October.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:And you usually offer how many in that sale?
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Oh, that depends. Two years ago it was 400, this year it was 70, I think. And it'll probably stay, you know, 60 to 80. Somewhere in that range. Kind of focusing on bread heifers, you know, mostly I really like selling good bread heifers think there's some value in that
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:This last year you had a really, really good offering. You and I kind of talked about it a little bit. I was trying to get you on before that sale, but you, you were swamped, the hay season and all the other things you had going on, plus the cattle. it was, it was a tremendous offering. And that's probably the nice thing about keeping your numbers kind of where they are so that you can manage them is you're going to now be able to offer females every single year.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah, and and I've told everybody who bought females from us in that sale two years ago that You know if they wanted us to help market their females Or they're bulls, you know, we could do both. So there was several females in that sale this last fall that, you know, we're from customers.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:So you're letting customers co op back into your deal. That's, that's pretty cool of you. There's a beef master here in Tennessee local breeder, and he does that. And that's actually a really nice thing, especially for a younger breeder that doesn't have good footing yet, If they're gonna buy five,$10,000 cow from you, the only way that's really gonna make it work for them is to be able to have that outlet to sell those progeny
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Yeah. Yeah.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:show up at my production sale and spending 10,000 on a cow, just letting you know. But it, but if I take it to Brian's stole sale at the Bear Mountain, yeah. Somebody probably spend that, especially with that prefix sitting there. I like that. I like that you're doing a solid thing for some, some pretty research out there. Alright, Brian. Hey, thank you very much. I so much appreciate that you hung in there this week and got this done. I wanted to interview you for quite some time. I remember your program back when I first started in the early two thousands. And I always thought that Bear Mountain, why he had the coolest name. I don't know why. I just thought that was a really, really cool name. And it was a good looking bull too.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:Thank you.
david_4_01-23-2025_202445-1:you, and you have a great sale and have a great night.
brian_4_01-23-2025_182445-1:All right. Thanks for having me on here.